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Old 01-10-2010, 06:47 AM
Y.Porat
 
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Default Re: A simple Q. but not a simple A,,

On Jan 9, 9:37*pm, cjcountess <cjcount...*yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 8, 2:56 pm, jbriggs444 <jbriggs...*gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 7, 4:51 pm, cjcountess <cjcount...*yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> > > In light of what Al just said, we can extend the ideas that obstruct
> > > progress in physics, to people who obstruct progress.

>
> > The idea that progress in physics is engendered to any significant
> > degree on sci.physics is somewhere to the left of absurd. *The idea
> > that Uncle Al is a key stumbling block preventing that from happening
> > is even more absurd.

>
> > Uncle Al is intelligent. *And does not suffer fools gladly.

>
> > It is no service to "progress in physics" or to an idiot to pretend to
> > that idiot that his or her ideas are sensible.

>
> > What's the saying -- "it's pointless to try to teach a cat how to do
> > physics. *It only frustrates you and annoys the cat"?

>
> > The idea that c^2 has an interpretation in terms of rotating the speed
> > of light by 90 degrees and taking a vector cross product that is
> > somehow more fundamental than its interpretation in terms of a unit
> > conversion factor required when using an un-natural system of units
> > where c != 1 is, to me, ludicrous on its face.

>
> I don’t care about your personal feelings toward me, just state your
> case for what you have claimed. The same goes for Al. I already made
> him look foolish and so now you want to join him.
> When I first encountered Al here:google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/c3d2094579aeee47?hl=en" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...79aeee47?hl=en
>
> He stated:
>
> > Tell us how affine/teleparallel gravitation makes exactly the same
> > predictions - qualitative and quantitative to the lst decimal place *-
> > as metric gravitation but without spacetime curvature. *You can't have
> > it both ways, buddy boy. *Either the equations are parity-even scalars
> > and tensors with spacetime curvature or parity-odd pseudoscalars and
> > pseudotensors with spacetime torsion.

>
> > Go ahead, tell us how a curvature looks like a Lorentz force.

>
> Since than I have shown how a wave is compressed by Lorentz force,
> which is = to Doppler effect measured as E=hf/c^2 or E=m/c^2 into
> spacetime curvature measured as E=hf=mc^2 as deBroglie stated.
> Just because you cannot see that “c^2”, is not just a mathematical
> conversion factor, with not physical structure, at quantum level,
> where E=hf=mc^2, and energy equals, and turns into matter, because it
> takes on a circular and or spherical form, shows your lack of sense.
> I have analogical, logical, mathematical, geometrical, and
> statistical, evidence to back it, and there is no way around it,
> except to deliberately close your eyes, because you refuse to swallow
> your foolish pride.
> Just keep on believing what you do and make your case for it.
> I will do same and enjoy it. When you know you are right it is easy to
> be confident.
> I don’t blame anyone if they don’t see this right away because it is a
> new discovery, but to deny evidence that is so clear it speaks for
> itself, and is right in your face, is itself ludicrous on its face.
>
> And oh yea, as for “advancing physics on sci physics”, even Al is
> trying to advance physics on sci physics, and thinks that mainstream
> physicist are obstructing its path, did you see his link:http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
>
> And if you think that the so called big boys like “Stephen Hawkings”,
> don’t have teams “data mining”, sites like these for ideas, than your
> a fool. And furthermore, if they truly don’t than they are fools.
> Truth is, some of the greatest ideas come from the out of the box
> thinking of non professionals and my idea- discovery is one of the
> greatest, (E=mc^2 = E=mc^circled) and (c=sqrt-1), and I am going to
> enjoy proving it.
>
> You both think your so smart.
>
> *I am also going to thoroughly enjoy proving you otherwise.
>
> Conrad J Countess
>
> Remember my name


-------------------
Good for you Countless !!!!

dont let all the imbecile parrot gangsters
hold you back
we are going to win not them!!
(that is why they are in panic !!)

ATB
Y.Porat
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  #2  
Old 01-10-2010, 11:22 AM
whoever
 
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Default Re: A simple Q. but not a simple A,,



"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat*gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6f3c108c-5347-4237-b4a2-51301fb4533e*d20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 9, 9:37 pm, cjcountess <cjcount...*yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 8, 2:56 pm, jbriggs444 <jbriggs...*gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 7, 4:51 pm, cjcountess <cjcount...*yahoo.com> wrote:

>>
>> > > In light of what Al just said, we can extend the ideas that obstruct
>> > > progress in physics, to people who obstruct progress.

>>
>> > The idea that progress in physics is engendered to any significant
>> > degree on sci.physics is somewhere to the left of absurd. The idea
>> > that Uncle Al is a key stumbling block preventing that from happening
>> > is even more absurd.

>>
>> > Uncle Al is intelligent. And does not suffer fools gladly.

>>
>> > It is no service to "progress in physics" or to an idiot to pretend to
>> > that idiot that his or her ideas are sensible.

>>
>> > What's the saying -- "it's pointless to try to teach a cat how to do
>> > physics. It only frustrates you and annoys the cat"?

>>
>> > The idea that c^2 has an interpretation in terms of rotating the speed
>> > of light by 90 degrees and taking a vector cross product that is
>> > somehow more fundamental than its interpretation in terms of a unit
>> > conversion factor required when using an un-natural system of units
>> > where c != 1 is, to me, ludicrous on its face.

>>
>> I don’t care about your personal feelings toward me, just state your
>> case for what you have claimed. The same goes for Al. I already made
>> him look foolish and so now you want to join him.
>> When I first encountered Al
>> here:google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/c3d2094579aeee47?hl=en" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...79aeee47?hl=en
>>
>> He stated:
>>
>> > Tell us how affine/teleparallel gravitation makes exactly the same
>> > predictions - qualitative and quantitative to the lst decimal place -
>> > as metric gravitation but without spacetime curvature. You can't have
>> > it both ways, buddy boy. Either the equations are parity-even scalars
>> > and tensors with spacetime curvature or parity-odd pseudoscalars and
>> > pseudotensors with spacetime torsion.

>>
>> > Go ahead, tell us how a curvature looks like a Lorentz force.

>>
>> Since than I have shown how a wave is compressed by Lorentz force,
>> which is = to Doppler effect measured as E=hf/c^2 or E=m/c^2 into
>> spacetime curvature measured as E=hf=mc^2 as deBroglie stated.
>> Just because you cannot see that “c^2”, is not just a mathematical
>> conversion factor, with not physical structure, at quantum level,
>> where E=hf=mc^2, and energy equals, and turns into matter, because it
>> takes on a circular and or spherical form, shows your lack of sense.
>> I have analogical, logical, mathematical, geometrical, and
>> statistical, evidence to back it, and there is no way around it,
>> except to deliberately close your eyes, because you refuse to swallow
>> your foolish pride.
>> Just keep on believing what you do and make your case for it.
>> I will do same and enjoy it. When you know you are right it is easy to
>> be confident.
>> I don’t blame anyone if they don’t see this right away because it is a
>> new discovery, but to deny evidence that is so clear it speaks for
>> itself, and is right in your face, is itself ludicrous on its face.
>>
>> And oh yea, as for “advancing physics on sci physics”, even Al is
>> trying to advance physics on sci physics, and thinks that mainstream
>> physicist are obstructing its path, did you see his
>> link:http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
>>
>> And if you think that the so called big boys like “Stephen Hawkings”,
>> don’t have teams “data mining”, sites like these for ideas, than your
>> a fool. And furthermore, if they truly don’t than they are fools.
>> Truth is, some of the greatest ideas come from the out of the box
>> thinking of non professionals and my idea- discovery is one of the
>> greatest, (E=mc^2 = E=mc^circled) and (c=sqrt-1), and I am going to
>> enjoy proving it.
>>
>> You both think your so smart.
>>
>> I am also going to thoroughly enjoy proving you otherwise.
>>
>> Conrad J Countess
>>
>> Remember my name

>
> -------------------
> Good for you Countless !!!!
>
> dont let all the imbecile parrot gangsters
> hold you back
> we are going to win not them!!
> (that is why they are in panic !!)


Who is in a panic? The only one panicing is you .. when you go flying off
the handle throwing insults at those who counter your nonsense and mistakes
with physics.



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Old 01-10-2010, 04:41 PM
Y.Porat
 
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Default Re: A simple Q. but not a simple A,,

On Jan 10, 1:22*pm, "whoever" <whoe...*whereever.com> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...*gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6f3c108c-5347-4237-b4a2-51301fb4533e*d20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jan 9, 9:37 pm, cjcountess <cjcount...*yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Jan 8, 2:56 pm, jbriggs444 <jbriggs...*gmail.com> wrote:

>
> >> > On Jan 7, 4:51 pm, cjcountess <cjcount...*yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> >> > > In light of what Al just said, we can extend the ideas that obstruct
> >> > > progress in physics, to people who obstruct progress.

>
> >> > The idea that progress in physics is engendered to any significant
> >> > degree on sci.physics is somewhere to the left of absurd. *The idea
> >> > that Uncle Al is a key stumbling block preventing that from happening
> >> > is even more absurd.

>
> >> > Uncle Al is intelligent. *And does not suffer fools gladly.

>
> >> > It is no service to "progress in physics" or to an idiot to pretend to
> >> > that idiot that his or her ideas are sensible.

>
> >> > What's the saying -- "it's pointless to try to teach a cat how to do
> >> > physics. *It only frustrates you and annoys the cat"?

>
> >> > The idea that c^2 has an interpretation in terms of rotating the speed
> >> > of light by 90 degrees and taking a vector cross product that is
> >> > somehow more fundamental than its interpretation in terms of a unit
> >> > conversion factor required when using an un-natural system of units
> >> > where c != 1 is, to me, ludicrous on its face.

>
> >> I don’t care about your personal feelings toward me, just state your
> >> case for what you have claimed. The same goes for Al. I already made
> >> him look foolish and so now you want to join him.
> >> When I first encountered Al
> >> here:google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/c3d2094579aeee47?hl=en" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...79aeee47?hl=en

>
> >> He stated:

>
> >> > Tell us how affine/teleparallel gravitation makes exactly the same
> >> > predictions - qualitative and quantitative to the lst decimal place *-
> >> > as metric gravitation but without spacetime curvature. *You can't have
> >> > it both ways, buddy boy. *Either the equations are parity-even scalars
> >> > and tensors with spacetime curvature or parity-odd pseudoscalars and
> >> > pseudotensors with spacetime torsion.

>
> >> > Go ahead, tell us how a curvature looks like a Lorentz force.

>
> >> Since than I have shown how a wave is compressed by Lorentz force,
> >> which is = to Doppler effect measured as E=hf/c^2 or E=m/c^2 into
> >> spacetime curvature measured as E=hf=mc^2 as deBroglie stated.
> >> Just because you cannot see that “c^2”, is not just a mathematical
> >> conversion factor, with not physical structure, at quantum level,
> >> where E=hf=mc^2, and energy equals, and turns into matter, becauseit
> >> takes on a circular and or spherical form, shows your lack of sense.
> >> I have analogical, logical, mathematical, geometrical, and
> >> statistical, evidence to back it, and there is no way around it,
> >> except to deliberately close your eyes, because you refuse to swallow
> >> your foolish pride.
> >> Just keep on believing what you do and make your case for it.
> >> I will do same and enjoy it. When you know you are right it is easy to
> >> be confident.
> >> I don’t blame anyone if they don’t see this right away because it is a
> >> new discovery, but to deny evidence that is so clear it speaks for
> >> itself, and is right in your face, is itself ludicrous on its face.

>
> >> And oh yea, as for “advancing physics on sci physics”, even Al is
> >> trying to advance physics on sci physics, and thinks that mainstream
> >> physicist are obstructing its path, did you see his
> >> link:http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm

>
> >> And if you think that the so called big boys like “Stephen Hawkings”,
> >> don’t have teams “data mining”, sites like these for ideas, thanyour
> >> a fool. And furthermore, if they truly don’t than they are fools.
> >> Truth is, some of the greatest ideas come from the out of the box
> >> thinking of non professionals and my idea- discovery is one of the
> >> greatest, (E=mc^2 = E=mc^circled) and (c=sqrt-1), and I am going to
> >> enjoy proving it.

>
> >> You both think your so smart.

>
> >> *I am also going to thoroughly enjoy proving you otherwise.

>
> >> Conrad J Countess

>
> >> Remember my name

>
> > -------------------
> > Good for you Countless !!!!

>
> > dont let all the imbecile parrot *gangsters
> > hold you back
> > we are going to win not them!!
> > (that is why they are in panic !!)

>
> Who is in a panic? *The only one panicing is you .. when you go flying off
> the handle throwing insults at those who counter your nonsense and mistakes
> with physics.
>
> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: n...*netfront.net ---


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with his other name
if you dont like me
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Old 01-10-2010, 08:58 PM
cjcountess
 
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Default Re: A simple Q. but not a simple A,,

On Jan 10, 1:47*am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...*gmail.com> wrote:


> Good for you Countless !!!!
>
> dont let all the imbecile parrot *gangsters
> hold you back
> we are going to win not them!!
> (that is why they are in panic !!)
>
> ATB
> Y.Porat


Thank you Y.Porat

Its only a matter of time before the right people in the right
position, with a truly objective perspective, valuing what is right,
over who is right, sees this.

Than it will become apparent, both who is revealing the truth, and who
is trying to conceal it.

Conrad J Countess
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Old 01-11-2010, 07:52 AM
Y.Porat
 
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Default Re: A simple Q. but not a simple A,,

On Jan 10, 10:58*pm, cjcountess <cjcount...*yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 10, 1:47*am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...*gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Good for you Countless !!!!

>
> > dont let all the imbecile parrot *gangsters
> > hold you back
> > we are going to win not them!!
> > (that is why they are in panic !!)

>
> > ATB
> > Y.Porat

>
> Thank you Y.Porat
>
> Its only a matter of time before the right people in the right
> position, with a truly objective perspective, valuing what is right,
> over who is right, sees this.
>
> Than it will become apparent, both who is revealing the truth, and who
> is trying to conceal it.
>
> Conrad J Countess


------------------
right !!
and even so
no one should consider himself free
of mistakes
anyone of us migth be right about one issue
and wrong about the other one!!

so the name of the good game is ----

MODESTY !!!
(and nonstop self checking )
ATB
Y.Porat
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